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Editorial Reviews. Review. "Day does us all a service by exposing as false some of the glib The Irrational Atheist: Dissecting the Unholy Trinity of Dawkins, Harris, And Hitchens - Kindle edition by Vox Day. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. Use features like bookmarks, note taking.
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Just as he wasn't admitting that about God. His context is that one can't reason from the evidence that they've seen to the conclusion that there is no evidence whatever therefore we should suspend belief in God, or else the person, if consistent, would have to reason that way with respect to their own mother.
And, the broader evidentialist constraint as applied to religion is false. There are many things that we don't have propositional evidence for, such as: Moreover, the evidentialist theists boils down to an infinite regress. If you must have evidence for any belief to be rationally held, then what is the evidence for this belief?
If you give it, then do you believe that the evidence supports your first belief? If so, then to rationally believe it you must provide evidence for this new belief. In this Day would be correct. Unfortunately he doesn't go through what I just did above. The absence of almost any philosophical analysis made this book far weaker than it could have been. I also have no idea why the subtitle read: Now, there was some funny rhetoric employed by Day, but this got old real fast.
I'd say Wilson's response to Harris employed rhetoric much better. Though I thought the book could have been more potent, it will serve useful to have in your library as a reference to some statistics in response to some statistical claims made by the New Atheists.
But I doubt anything in here will convince any New Atheist of any major flaws in the arguments of Dawkins et. That's because she flies by the seat of her emotional pants in rejecting Christianity. Argument isn't always effective against emotional temper tantrums. View all 10 comments.
Oct 08, Outi rated it did not like it Shelves: Dec 13, Charlotte rated it did not like it. Oh, well, whatever, I guess I can't blame a guy whose real name is "Theodore Beale" for changing his name in order to sound cool and hip. No offense to any normal person out there named "Theodore" or "Beale". This book is stuffed full of stupidity. Vox Day chuckle fancies himself a genius he really does , and you can clearly see this from the way he thinks his ridiculous arguments are completely correct.
ARIZONA ATHEIST: The Irrational Atheist: A Refutation
Dec 23, Priest Apostate rated it did not like it. Claiming to use logic to dissect your opponents' arguments -- only to then expect the reader to accept your claim of deity as a premise is rather insulting. Feb 03, piranha rated it did not like it Shelves: If someone feels moved to go to great lengths to tell you that they're a genius -- they're probably not.
A membership in Mensa does not bestow wisdom either. I concur that Dawkins is an arrogant jerk, but so is Vox Day, and he has rather less to show for. I find Christian dominionism as attractive as the equivalent Islamic version -- thanks, but no thanks to arguments that claim some inherent superiority elevating Christians over anyone else. This book is wholly self-indulgent, and argues in bad If someone feels moved to go to great lengths to tell you that they're a genius -- they're probably not.
This book is wholly self-indulgent, and argues in bad faith there is no actual dichotomy between strong atheism and evangelical Christianity; the world of spirituality and morality encompasses many more choices. If you only ever discuss your faith with arrogant jerks who haven't actually thought through the arguments they're regurgitating wholesale from prominent new atheists, then this will give you ammunition to engage in flamewars with them on the internet -- if that is your life's goal, by all means, go ahead and waste your energy.
If you've long grown beyond that, pass on this book. Seriously, if you are a believer, why do you even care?
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No atheist will knock on your door trying to convert you, nobody's absence of faith impacts yours at all. And if you take the fight to them, you will convince nobody with these arguments -- atheists simply do not accept them as superior because you are arguing from an authority that is as unreal to them as unicorns. Read some of the great religious thinkers instead, it'll be more personally rewarding. Same goes for fellow atheists, actually. Don't go for the low-hanging fruit to hone your thinking skills.
Sep 16, Michael Johnson rated it it was amazing. I loved this book. Vox lays out the case that science, instead of religion, is responsible for the most destruction on this planet; all the while showing facts and statistics to back it up. He dices through Hitchens, Harris, and Dawkins with ease, sparing Dennett and his beard. Pick this book up ASAP and check his blog out also. Jan 27, Kevin Sweet rated it did not like it. I made it to chapter 4. I really gave it my best. I Just finished reading all of the Four Horsemen books, and I found this book lying around at my parent's house, so I thought, why not?
Vox Day a pen name, which means "Voice of God" in Latin is an alt-right nutjob. He writes in the preface that this book isn't in any way a defense of religion. Instead, it's a book entirely about destroying the arguments of Harris, Dawkins, Hitchens, and sometimes Dennett when it's convenient. Basically, he takes I made it to chapter 4.
Basically, he takes a sentence out of context from one of these authors, misrepresents its original intention, and spends five pages condescendingly explaining why he disagrees. It reads like an angry blog post. As it turns out, "blogger" is Day's only credential, as he runs an alt-right blog. He admits in the Acknowledgements section that he has already blogged about this material and received feedback from his followers. So that's why it reads like a blog post. I had to stop reading when he tried to argue that atheists should never have been able to hold political offices.
I was making notes in the margins of the book typically there wasn't enough space , but at that point, what is there to say? Oh, you think that atheists aren't capable of holding public office. Okay, I think we're done here! Dec 22, Ryan rated it it was amazing. This book is simply extraordinary: Compelling, arch but not snarky, and delightfully readable. If one can know a man by the enemies he makes, the 1-star reviews and how poorly they're written sing lustily the praises of Vox. Feb 27, thecryptile rated it liked it Shelves: Vox Day doesn't even attempt to prove the existence of God, but he does prove that Dawkins is a total asshat.
The Irrational Atheist is a thought provoking read for skeptics and believers alike. Dec 21, Rod rated it really liked it Shelves: Now that was fun. I've been tolerating their for entertainment only abuse for a decade now - it's great to see someone throw it back in their faces. These people really are idiots and horrible scholars, and Vox Day just helped us to see exactly how.
I'm still not fully sure what exactly Vox believes as far as Biblical Christianity goes. He tends to lean in the correct directi Now that was fun. But at the end of the day: To share the truth in LOVE is not always a pleasant thing. It seems Paul, Peter and Stephen had dangerous results when speaking the truth. If everyone is glad to hear your message - it's probably the wrong message. Jan 14, Roswitha rated it really liked it. He is setting about to examine, dissect, and ultimately disprove claims made by prominent Atheists, using only history, logic, and reason as his tools.
In this he succeeds very well; The Irrational Atheist is a stimulating work which provides an intellectual challenge to understand, even to the Christian. Vox is an outspoken Christian; and although he holds some beliefs that I don't really see as biblical, he nevertheless is an extr Vox Day is very specifically NOT making a case for Christianity. Vox is an outspoken Christian; and although he holds some beliefs that I don't really see as biblical, he nevertheless is an extremely intelligent, shrewd individual, and TIA goes a long way to show that the so-called intellectual reasons to disdain religion are actually almost universally groundless.
Mar 30, Adam Simmons rated it did not like it Recommends it for: I am not typically in the habit of writing reviews for books, but in this case, I feel obligated to spare any potential reader the evening or week depending on time available and reading speed that might be wasted in reading this book. Before beginning my review, I would like to note that I do not define myself as an atheist, theist, or agnostic because of the terrible connotations with which they are often associated. In fact, I think labels of this sort lead to unnecessary disputes and hasty I am not typically in the habit of writing reviews for books, but in this case, I feel obligated to spare any potential reader the evening or week depending on time available and reading speed that might be wasted in reading this book.
In fact, I think labels of this sort lead to unnecessary disputes and hasty condemnations of character. If I were to begrudgingly accept a title of any kind, it would be that of an empirical skeptic. First of all, if you are looking for any arguments for or against the existence of god, this is not the book for you. If you are looking for even the most elementary of philosophical arguments or scientific disputes regarding the basis of theistic or atheistic postulations, this is not the book for you. In fact, the author says so himself in the introduction.
For anyone interested in the nature of theories surrounding the question of god, this book is far from helpful and, indeed, it never claims to be. On another note, If you are looking for a comprehensive outline of philosophical arguments on the matter, I would recommend the following books: Critique of Religion and Philosophy by Walter Kaufmann 2. The Miracle of Theism: Arguments for and Against the Existence of God by John Leslie Mackie If you want a serious look at all of the arguments for and against god, these books are as in-depth and far-reaching as they get.
The only thing I can honestly say this book makes any serious attempt to do is to show that the new atheist movement is extreme and the leaders of the movement: Dawkins, Dennett, Hitchens, etc. Outside of this, the book is nothing more than one odd amalgamation of hand-picked statistics and historical references that serve to bolster the complex melange of personal attacks and random references to the author's own political and social views.
Although the truth-value of statements are not invalidated by the character of those who wrote them, it may prove useful to do a little bit of research on the author Vox Day before reading this book, if only to gain an idea of where he is coming from.
The Irrational Atheist: Dissecting the Unholy Trinity of Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens
Because I do not want to be hypocritical in the way that the author was by using personal attacks as substitute or as supplement, at the very least to scholarly critique, I can only encourage you to investigate some of his views for yourselves; you may find his opinions on race, gender, etc. Sam Harris is so superlatively wrong that it will require the development of esoteric mathematics operating simultaneously in multiple dimensions to fully comprehend the orders of magnitude of his wrongness.
Darwin and pray that he never decides to inflict a novel on humanity. Ergo, Christianity is science. Greenland is still colder now than it was when Norse settlers were raising crops there in the eleventh century. After all, it would be far easier to eliminate a few hundred thousand scientists, even a few million scientists, than 4. The peg-legged crack whore, on the other hand, only wants to shift agricultural subsidies from cereal crops to coca plants and poppies and install disco balls in the White House.
This is why the philosopher John Locke reached the conclusion that atheists could be tolerated in civil society, so long as they were not permitted to hold positions of political authority. And then fails it. Religious faith very seldom causes war, either implicitly or explicitly. Therefore, God is not the problem. Jun 08, Frank Roberts rated it really liked it Shelves: Devastating critique of the leading advocates of Atheism in our day: The author takes apart their arguments, but only engages in minimal apologetics of his own.
Is religion really the chief cause for conflict and war in the world? Are the "unbelieving" blue states really doing better in crime, prosperity, and health? Can Reason really provide ethical guidance? Is being raised religio Devastating critique of the leading advocates of Atheism in our day: Is being raised religious really akin to having been abused? The author provides a refreshing examination of all these claims, and a strong affirmation of the value, nay, the necessity, of belief.
Jan 02, 2bfree rated it it was amazing. Outstanding use of classic logic and reason to dismantle prominent atheists illogical reasoning. Sep 17, Todd Feasel rated it really liked it. Pokes all kind of holes in what passes for reason from Dawkins and other frauds like him. Oct 25, Philip rated it liked it Shelves: Vox Day succeeds and fails. He succeeds in refuting many fallicious and factually incorrect arguments made by prominent atheists.
But he fails to do this without coming across as an arrogant jerk on the same scale as Dawkins. Rather than stick to the logic, arguments and facts like he says he means to, he gets personal on a very regular basis. He evidently enjoys pointing out that Dawkins has had more wives than children, that Hitchens probably drinks too much, and that Michael Onfray is French. H Vox Day succeeds and fails. He also enjoys tootling his own horn, reminding everyone that he's been in a band, that he's a member of Mensa, and that he thinks evolutionary theory is wrong and man-made climate change isn't happening apparently those last two are something to be proud of.
As if the unhelpful number of snarky comments in the main text weren't enough, he evidently took glee in inserting a few extra remarks in the form of footnotes. Footnotes are also used for the more usual book references and additional stats, which I don't mind, but the huge number of just plain irritating footnotes probably around half the total meant that towards the end of the book I would flinch every time I saw a new one.
Maybe he's just trying to be funny. Perhaps he doesn't only think he's an intellectual genius but a comic one, too. He also has an agenda he's trying to push throughout the books. He things socialism is stupid. He has a particularly large beef with science. He devotes an entire chapter to arguing why science will Kill Us All, notionally to refute an argument made by Harris about how science will save us all.
But I couldn't help but feel that when devoting a whole chapter to what could have been done in a couple of pages, Vox Day was pushing his own agenda. If he wants to vent his frustration of the world, perhaps he should consider alternate approaches in future. I dunno, maybe screaming into a pillow or something.
That at least wouldn't add pointless drivel to a book. If he just stuck to the arguments against atheism without trying to be funny, and without trying to push his own agenda, I'd be tempted to give this 4. When he does lay his ego to one side, he provides some very thoughtful, well-written discussions which made genuinely enjoyable reading.
It's just a shame that much of the book is peppered with such a nasty overtone. Chad Gibbons rated it really liked it Jul 25, Jan 02, Leandro Novaes rated it it was amazing. This book will explain to you all the flaws in most of the common atheist arguments, by examining in detail the arguments used by three of the most famous contemporary atheists. And flawed they are. For all the other arguments, you will have no trouble doing it yourself by following the same kind of reasoning that is shown on this book.
May 26, Paige rated it really liked it. This book is painful if you have have secluded yourself in an atheist social group. He destroys so many atheist myths. Its a short easy read and well backed up. But if you are looking for a Christian apologetic, this book is not really that.
We are talking an anti new atheist book here. And it just kills them. Look at the ratings most the guys one staring this book have not even read it. Jul 08, Jerrod rated it really liked it Recommends it for: Although this book is more of a rebuttal to the 'unholy trinity' than a dialog to the readers, which makes it a different read. Weave a Silken Web. When Karla hears her parents were killed in an accident, she heads home only to discover their deaths were no accident.
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There was a problem filtering reviews right now. Please try again later. Kindle Edition Verified Purchase. He details the threat of modern atheism in a distinctive way. A must for anyone concerned about losing their freedom of thought. This is a romp. For someone who has had a sneaking feeling that Dawkins, Dennett, Harris and others of the Bright New Atheists, claim the high ground of reason, when in effect they are the priests of the High Church of Atheism, it is like water in the desert, profoundly refreshing.
And this is because Vox Day has read the leaders of this new militant church with care and bothered to check on the 'facts' they so confidently present. He proceeds to demolish their premises, fallacy by fallacy. His taking apart of Sam Harris mostly on the basis that Harris quite demonstrably gets his facts wrong, is cringe making it is so complete.
That an academic could be quite so shoddy in his arguments comes as a surprise. The often quoted idea that religions are the main cause of conflict and war, is demonstrated beyond doubt, to be entirely wrong. The writing is clear and crisp and - if you are one of those who finds the in-your-face atheism of the evangelical kind both unphilosophical and crass in its portrayal of religious mysticism, this book is for you.
One person found this helpful. The arguments and their deconstruction are still relevant all these years later. I would recommend this book to anyone who is searching for God, wants to understand how to structure a rational argument or is looking for a reasoned deconstruction of new atheist thinking. Day does not attempt an attack on atheism Day does not attempt an attack on atheism per se, nor an over all defense of faith although he is a christian himself, he points out how the "new atheists" chiefly represented by Dawkins, Hitchens and Harris at the time failed to make a rational case for their atheism.
Even if you care nothing for the particular authors Day attacks by name, this is a great book and especially useful when arguing against atheists. In all his non-fiction books that I've read, he does his homework and answers the big picture questions that get lost in the rhetoric. For example in this book: Vox does a great job deconstructing the atheists like Sam Harris. Vox truly made atheists irrational, without using religion. See all reviews.
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